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 Post subject: TooHi seems to really be that good...
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:44 am 
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I have been watching CG pretty closely of late and got complaints about a player named TooHi so I decided to look in on him myself. The show he gets the MEAT treatment often meaning he gets accused of being a cheater when it appears he is just that good. As near as I can tell, he is not cheating and the chat logs show he never starts anything but isn't afraid to respond when attacked verbally first.

Here is the deal. Record him cheating and I'll ban him but I have watched and he is just really good. I would guess he's me but I don't have that much time to play. My armor is rusty too. Beat him or leave him but don't accuse somebody of anything unless you can prove it. Ask me to watch a player if you suspect something but luckily we are all good enough here to have been called cheaters at some point. Report to me when others claim cheating is going on. I'll watch the player and review the logs and make the final call. Thanks all!

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 Post subject: Re: TooHi seems to really be that good...
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:30 am 
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Herm, no offense but unless you have used cheats you really don't know what you are looking to see. I spent a little time with the MHM guys (among several other admin groups like HoF) showing them how to admin and giving trusted players an old version of a bot that's only good offline. To a person the lightbulb goes off shortly after running it. "So THATS what I'm looking at" is a common response. One guy at HoF messaged me it was like learning to drive. You can explain things all day long in drivers ed class but 5 minutes behind the wheel shows you way more.

If you have a recurring problem, slam a demorec on the server. I know you are not much on anticheats but you ought to peek in on this if someone really took the time to contact you. I have lots of private stuff too if you want to run something server side to check people. I'll tell you the same thing I told Schlong: You are *not* going to like what you see. Cheating is a MUCH greater problem than anyone thinks. (Just ask the new admins running ACE)


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 Post subject: Re: TooHi seems to really be that good...
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:42 am 
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Hermskii if you can send me his IP I would appreciate it.
I have a list of names/IP's a mile long.
Although he's probably scared off by now or back to using an alias.

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 Post subject: Re: TooHi seems to really be that good...
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:24 am 
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We have a Full report about using cheats from a member here who actually loaded one and tried it out on several servers with the admin's knowledge of it.
It was a very informative report.
The results are posted both Here at Hermskii's and also on my forum at HUTP.
*I'll try to find it/them!*

BUT, what was noted also is that when using cheats in Redeemer Arena, it doesn't do the cheater much good IF at all. :wink:

A web site/forum I stumbled upon the other day really set my fuse off... (Cheat Forum) :evil:
Here :arrow: [url]*Link Removed at "Dude" :lol: Gopo's Request* blip-gone![/url]
This is all they do is Hack Hack Hack! :roll: What Fun eh? :?

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 Post subject: Re: TooHi seems to really be that good...
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:48 am 
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Dude, I'd remove that link. No good comes from posting that. :evil:

Cheats are extremely helpful in deemer arena. Running a radar lets me know exactly where everyone is at all times. Just having that would make me unbeatable even at my skill level.


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 Post subject: Re: TooHi seems to really be that good...
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:22 am 
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MEAT wrote:
Hermskii if you can send me his IP I would appreciate it.
I have a list of names/IP's a mile long.
Although he's probably scared off by now or back to using an alias.

Plus, I've played against this guy and he's not all that good.
He may know a map or two but that's about it.
And I've also seen Killer_Klownz embarrass this guy and I know Klownz
doesn't cheat.
TooHi is probably an old timer or just a regular using an alias.

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 Post subject: Re: TooHi seems to really be that good...
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:28 am 
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gopostal wrote:
Cheats are extremely helpful in deemer arena. Running a radar lets me know exactly where everyone is at all times. Just having that would make me unbeatable even at my skill level.

Well maybe excepting radar :lol:
But, Not in {CMM} - we ALL have it there! LOL :lol: (If turned on) :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: TooHi seems to really be that good...
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Yo Hermskii...I'm still waiting for the IP for TooHi... :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: TooHi seems to really be that good...
 Post Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 1:07 am 
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Saw him playing tonight - seems normal. :|

Oh and MEAT wants his IP Hermskii. :!:

Oh "Dude" - Gopo LOL - I removed that Link above for ya! :lol:
Gad-Zooks, one of my sons-in-law uses that word - too much. :roll:

Look here :wink: :arrow: History of the Word DUDE

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 Post subject: Re: TooHi seems to really be that good...
 Post Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 10:26 am 
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The IP address is 76.107.94.204. I would like to know who this player may be from the past. While everything seemed normal to me at first about this player, other information has been brought to me that makes me need to take an even closer look. MEAT, please post all aliases you have for this IP address. Thank you!

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 Post subject: Re: TooHi seems to really be that good...
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Herm I have no record of this IP in any of my old logs from anywhere. I even did a * search for the last range.


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 Post subject: Re: TooHi seems to really be that good...
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Closest IP I have is 76.107.96.12...belonged to I).I. (Death Inc)
But this is going back a few years.

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 Post subject: Re: TooHi seems to really be that good...
 Post Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 11:15 pm 
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Interesting indeed then. Nobody has this person on their radar. I hear he plays like an old regular would. I have not played him but did get owned by ~_~ a few times tonight. He reminds me of KB or Viruz. He just grabs the best spot first and starts hookin the bombs. All is fair in love and redeemer war. I played the most I've played in years today which equals about 10 rounds. Hard to play when I suck and I know I'm much better than this. My timing is all off.

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 Post subject: Re: TooHi seems to really be that good...
 Post Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:33 am 
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Hermskii wrote:
Interesting indeed then. Nobody has this person on their radar. I hear he plays like an old regular would. I have not played him but did get owned by ~_~ a few times tonight. He reminds me of KB or Viruz. He just grabs the best spot first and starts hookin the bombs. All is fair in love and redeemer war. I played the most I've played in years today which equals about 10 rounds. Hard to play when I suck and I know I'm much better than this. My timing is all off.

I know the feeling LOL :lol: :|

I watched him the other day and he wasn't no. 1 he was in 3rd place most of the game then he climbed to no. 2 position after some time.

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 Post subject: Re: TooHi seems to really be that good...
 Post Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:54 pm 
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MEAT wrote:
I've played against this guy and he's not all that good.
He may know a map or two but that's about it.
And I've also seen Killer_Klownz embarrass this guy and I know Klownz
doesn't cheat.
TooHi is probably an old timer or just a regular using an alias.

I'll repeat myself...I doubt he's all that good.
He may know a map or two which gives him an advantage.
Plus the people complaining are probably not all that good, so the
advantage joe will dominate.

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