Internet Explorer, you are a pain the ***!!

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Internet Explorer, you are a pain the ***!!

Post by a nameless entity » Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:56 am

I wish I knew what it is that is going on with IE. I usually use Firefox for everything except watching Youtube videos. (I use IE for the videos because I have a powerful cache cleaner that gets rid of all of the junk files left over after a viewing session. Firefox has changed so often lately that the program no longer "sees" it.)

But for quite some time now, I have been noticing that if I am browsing something on Firefox, and then decide to open IE to watch a video on that page or for whatever other reason, my PC just slows down to a crawl. IE also has taken a strong dislike to pages with "errors" on them. It took me ages to get a web page to load that IE didn't like. And this was after a reboot. Firefox, no problem. A bit slow because of all of the rotten design of the website, but it loaded the page in no more than 30 seconds.

Nothing is perfect however. Here is the website in question: http://www.kiwiindian.com

(Here's a link to the photos page: http://www.kiwiindian.com/#!history-of- ... cles/c1zmd)

See how fast it loads for you in both IE and Firefox. Maybe your newer PC and the latest version of IE has no problem. I'm using XP and Internet Explorer 8.
If you find the brief history of Indian motorcycles on their website, you will see some photos of the classic Indians. There's a picture of Burt Munro on his 1920 Indian Scout. (But you must click on the "More" button to see him.)
There is also this cool photo of 3 young men on their Indians that was taken almost exactly 100 years ago. I could not get Firefox to let me save the picture to my PC. I had to use print screen, then load it into paint. I was going to then cut out the best part of the image.
But then I decided to reboot and see if IE could get me the photo. As I said it took forever for the page to load, but I got the photo. You can tell the picture was taken somewhere between 1910 and 1918 by the dress the lady in the back ground is wearing. I like this photo so much that it is now my desktop wallpaper.

What a pain in the *** though, just to get a piece of wallpaper. :?
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Re: Internet Explorer, you are a pain the ***!!

Post by Hermskii » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:05 am

15 seconds to load the first link and 10 seconds to load the second one using Windows 7 and IE10. You said you were using XP and Windows 8. LOL. I suspect you meant IE8.

I have to deal with folks saying their internet is slow every day. I will get together a small set of instructions that I suspect may help your efforts with a faster internet explorer.
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Re: Internet Explorer, you are a pain the ***!!

Post by a nameless entity » Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:41 am

Hermskii wrote:15 seconds to load the first link and 10 seconds to load the second one using Windows 7 and IE10. You said you were using XP and Windows 8. LOL. I suspect you meant IE8.

I have to deal with folks saying their internet is slow every day. I will get together a small set of instructions that I suspect may help your efforts with a faster internet explorer.
Ooops, yes I meant IE 8. Post edited accordingly. Thanks. :)

Oh yes please! I would appreciate any advice and help you can offer. :D

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This photograph is so timeless that I just love looking at it. It could be from any age. Young men pose with their new machines like that to this very day. Look at the young man's bike in the foreground. It's very new indeed. I suspect all 3 machines are newish. They're just starting to show signs of use. The old style natural rubber of the tires is just starting to show the discolouration of use on the dirt roads of the day. Look at the rear tire of the bike in the foreground. It appears that it is getting dirty from perhaps a little too much oil dripping onto the drive chain from the automatic oiler. Those total loss engines used to discard the used oil onto the primary chain and then it would drip out of a hole in the primary cover. A hose to the rear chain could be installed to use some of that oil to lube the final drive chain.

The fellow at the back of the group has installed a better horn and an acetylene headlight. He plans to do some serious riding. And he'll do that in maximum comfort by the standards of the day. Those are cradle spring frame Indians. Look closely at the front bike and you can see the leaf spring rear suspension those old Indians had. Way ahead of their time! No other maker had a rear suspension setup in those days. (Harley stayed with hard tails until 1958. Forty years after this photo was taken!)

Look at the road surface. It's dirt, but it has been scraped nice and smooth.
I wonder where the photo was taken. It could be anyplace, at any time. Timeless!
Yes, this photo was so worth the pain it took to snatch it off of the internet. :D
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Re: Internet Explorer, you are a pain the ***!!

Post by a nameless entity » Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:14 am

And another thing:
In IE I really hate that we lost the "history" tab on the hotbar at the top of the page. If there is some way to restore that tab so I don't have to use that "alternate" favorites tab, (the one with the stupid little yellow star beside it) I'd like to know how to do it.

I don't like using the restore previous browsing sessions option, because sometimes IE bogs down my PC, and I can end up in trouble all over again if I try that solution. :?

No wonder most people use some other browser. IE sucks. End of story.

I'd reinstall that cache cleaner program so it would "see" Firefox again, and I could leave IE behind, but Firefox changes almost weekly, and that is starting to annoy me too! :roll:
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Post by Dr.Flay » Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:58 am

*EDIT* Here is the original file (633x530)
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http://static.wixstatic.com/media/eb7f1 ... 00_jpg_srz

The site is way too heavy on java and animated stuff, and badly coded.
No one seems to check their code these days. (Opera has it built in, so I just validated it)
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http% ... =1&No200=1

Opera 12 opened the page in 11 seconds.

YSlow diagnostic
YSlow grade C for http://www.kiwiindian.com
http://yslow.org/scoremeter/?url=http%3 ... &yminify=0

The browsers are not at fault.
IE8 is the last XP update, but you can add some modern support which may help.
http://www.google.com/chromeframe

Also you may find that regular updates of "CCleaner Enhancer" can keep up to date with FireFox
http://singularlabs.com/software/ccenhancer/

You will also find that "SmartBuster" finds a few other files CCleaner ignores.
http://www.rovatronic.net/SmartBuster.htm

Opera's turbo mode helps on slow days or image-heavy sites.
Using a CoralCDN plugin for your browser can also help.
http://www.coralcdn.org/plugins/ (the Bookmarklet works for everyone)
https://addons.opera.com/extensions/details/webcache/
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/cacheit
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addo ... or-viewer/

These will not help if the slowdown is because of rendering.
Minimise the browser to remove the need to render to screen. Open the browser when the data/traffic stops (works for all browsers).

On XP, we don't have HW decoding in flash plugins, because Adobe are useless, layabouts.
It requires DX10, even though it will use DX9 HW decoding anyway, if you have Vista/7/8
Sometimes you can still access the quality setting via the right-click. I always have to set to "low".

I use "Media Player Classic-Black Edition" (MPC-BE) for streaming flash files as it is happy with XP HW decoding.
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