Gopo and the changes

[gopostal]

I know you have seen some changes and I hope to clear up some questions about it. I have sent a preview email out to the admins so they have a heads up but I'll try to explain and also answer any questions you might have.
So why the change? Well, it's no secret that I have been looking at opening my own shop for some time. That's been a frequent discussion between Herm and I. The main thing stopping me was having the help to do it. The stars aligned though and now it seems time to give it a go.
With Herm's blessing I have created a new group: UMH. This is Ultimate Monster Hunt, what will be the premier spot for all things MH related. I have help with this, though I will leave it to them to inform their respective groups when they feel it is appropriate.
What is UMH gonna be? Well for starters we are creating a website: http://ultimatemonsterhunt.com/ along with forums: http://ultimatemonsterhunt.com/forums. There are servers in place in London, New York, and 2 more to be placed once the first two are fully configured. We will have a full downloads section, news, all the bells and whistles a site needs to be fun. We plan to get fully online within a couple of weeks, with new things up daily.
Now let me stress something: UMH is not a "clan" but a group created to foster development of monsterhunt and to give creators someplace to work and learn. Herm has a wonderful model here and I borrowed heavily from his style of admin, so expect to see things run much the same way. Do not feel like you are wrong or "cheating" on MHM by stopping by or registering. I'm sure a quick PM to Herm will show you his support for this. There is nothing wrong with being a member at several groups or playing on several servers. We do NOT seek to compete with anyone and I am sure once the mods are loaded and running you will see how we are striving to be different. Join up, play, have fun and please take every chance to say how wonderful MHM is there, as I know that firsthand.
"Why are you doing this gopo?"...Well that's not a simple answer. Herm has been fantastic supporting me and mentoring me in areas I had little skill. It's been the most positive of experiences. Running the servers though has become a huge chore. I find myself not playing as much as I'd like because of all the upkeep. I desperately needed help with things and had no one to turn to. I'm not angry but you guys might consider talking with Supreme about how much work goes into a server, and offering to take the time to learn some part of it so you can help out next time. It would have made this decision much harder.
"What's going to change?"...The major changes are in place. UMH server #2 will be updated with nexgen. It is already running a custom controller based on Mayhem though changes will be made to it eventually. At some point the DM server will be rebadged and used as a monsterhunt Lab server where custom mods by members will be tested, though that will be down the road a bit. Of course the new site and forum will be added to and made better pretty much daily.

In summary please let me say you are all welcome to join, play, have fun, and do without feeling guilty you are somehow wrong for doing it. MHM and UMH are going to be distinct experiences and there is no reason not to enjoy both.

[BIOMECH]

All explanatory, but it seems to have replaced MHMIII.
It's so odd joining the UMH server, with MHM tag, as a Player, the three combine and I feel like I just joined Kilerbee's server or something equally distant
From our conversations I think HellFire is on the same general side as me.(hard to tell)

[Reiyel_3.0]

Yes Bio, MHMIII has been replaced.

However, before start getting upset we should thank Gopo for everything. Like I said on another post thanks to him we had all those fun moments. Even if POTS and I were the root admins Gopo did all the hard work, and he asked nothing in exchange. MHM3 and MHM4 were Gopo´s servers.

Anyway, like I told you on a PM I wish you the best with this new project Gopo. I'm glad you have found people who can actually help you and support you with all the coding and mapping stuff. I'm sure you will make some awesome things for MH.

I've offered myself to be an L4 admin on these new Gopo's servers in order to help him. We should all join and play sometimes on these UMH servers; I think it could be a good way to show Gopo how much we appreciate him and how much we thank him. That´s why we are not a clan: you are free to do whatever you think is the best for you and people here will support you

Some points to clarify now:

+ UMH servers won´t be part of the MHM community, it will be a whole new independent community but we are all invited to join =)
+ MHM3 and MHM4 will be replaced soon by those new servers; that means I won´t be a root admin anymore.
+ Forum should be modified. I´ll ask Herm to merge this MHM3 forum with CG and MHM, like we did when MHM2 was gone.

I´d just like to thank you all for the good moments. It´s been really fun. I also believe our community got stronger

BTW, I liked these servers and admining stuff. I won´t promise you anything but I could give you a surprise in the future xD

[-HellFire-]

My thanks also goes to Gopo for all the good and hard work.
He made the Village for us, spending much time on it.
Made the Mayhem mod + more awesome things.

Without him we missed a lot of fun and maps, mods etc.

I wish you good luck with your new server's/site.

[BIOMECH]

Well, nothing stays the same for ever...best of luck with your new server (Why isn't there a smiley for rueful grin?)

End Of An Era.

[*POTS*]

Like someone said, "all good things come to an end". It has been fun till it's lasted. Anyway I don't think I'm gonna be an admin anymore, because I think I won't feel the same like I've felt during the last weeks with you guys, and it would be odd to be an admin on a non-MHM server. Of course big thanks go to gopostal and Hermskii that have given us the possibility to have fun on the MHMIII server, making the community stronger (I hope), especially gopostal who was the real owner of the servers and did all the hard work. The positive thing is we'll have more time to spend on the original MHM server now.

I wish gopo the best luck with his new project, I will continue to help him testing stuff and from time to time I will play on the new servers, and one day in the future I might decide to become an admin again (even if not a root admin) on the new UMH servers, who knows.

I have one last request for gopo, may you please give Hermskii a copy of the MH-MHMDeadCity{beta7} map, so he could upload it on the MHM1 server?

Cya!

[Scify]

I will help out. I have test maps before mostly DM-maps for Yournan2000 OR MSM UT Classics2k4 . Shouldn't never told him place I reach tloc he block them
I can help test map.Monster beat Scify
I will still play UMH .

[gopostal]

POTS I'd be happy to share anything I have. I'll upload the files and I'll send you the link. First you'll need to discuss it with Herm though as the sendmepacking mod requires a server package entry and additions to mapvote, as well as some server setup. Also the pets require an external package (villagemonsters.u) which will also require a serverpackage entry, though no need to add to mapvote. He has been quite hesitant to run extra mods though so talk to him first. Don't hold it against him if he won't, as it does create a lot of extra work when you start adding things. I wasn't kidding with you guys about how consuming it can be. I totally understand why he seeks simplicity.

Oh yeah he probably doesn't have all the tex packages either. He'll have to add some there too.

Oh, and guys I'm not dying. It sounds like I'm getting last rites The name on the shingle has changed for the better of everyone but if you vote the village map you'll still be able to warp into your house. UMH is a totally different experience from MHM so it's silly to think you can't play both. Heck once the London server goes live your ping to there will be 1/3 of what it is to MHM or UMH2.
Scify I will be honored for you to continue to play on all the servers. Thank you for your support

[Scify]

Yes Bio, MHMIII has been replaced.

However, before start getting upset we should thank Gopo for everything. Like I said on another post thanks to him we had all those fun moments. Even if POTS and I were the root admins Gopo did all the hard work, and he asked nothing in exchange. MHM3 and MHM4 were Gopo´s servers.

Anyway, like I told you on a PM I wish you the best with this new project Gopo. I'm glad you have found people who can actually help you and support you with all the coding and mapping stuff. I'm sure you will make some awesome things for MH.

I've offered myself to be an L4 admin on these new Gopo's servers in order to help him. We should all join and play sometimes on these UMH servers; I think it could be a good way to show Gopo how much we appreciate him and how much we thank him. That´s why we are not a clan: you are free to do whatever you think is the best for you and people here will support you

Some points to clarify now:

+ UMH servers won´t be part of the MHM community, it will be a whole new independent community but we are all invited to join =)
+ MHM3 and MHM4 will be replaced soon by those new servers; that means I won´t be a root admin anymore.
+ Forum should be modified. I´ll ask Herm to merge this MHM3 forum with CG and MHM, like we did when MHM2 was gone.

I´d just like to thank you all for the good moments. It´s been really fun. I also believe our community got stronger

BTW, I liked these servers and admining stuff. I won´t promise you anything but I could give you a surprise in the future xD

I like surprise

[BIOMECH]

After spending so long on MHMIV with Reiyel, Hellfy, and later on Ice then Supreme, I feel decided better about the community things, even though I ended up spectating so much Supreme didn't know I was a Xan until the last few matches

More time on MHM?
Mmmm...Although going for simplicity is nice and all, the lack of a chatbox you can actually see, the fun and useful nexgen, or that neat mod which remembers your status when you leave, MHM1 feels decidedly outdated after spending so much time on 3.

It's an inconvenience to have to keep switching between Boss and Cow whenever I go between servers too
Think I may have to have a look at the UMH forums, see if I recognize anyone

[*POTS*]

First you'll need to discuss it with Herm though as the sendmepacking mod requires a server package entry and additions to mapvote, as well as some server setup. Also the pets require an external package (villagemonsters.u) which will also require a serverpackage entry, though no need to add to mapvote. He has been quite hesitant to run extra mods though so talk to him first.

Don't forget the fix for the mover exploit embedded in the SMP mod, but Hermskii doesn't like changes... It took him about 3 years or so to upgrade the forum...

Oh, and guys I'm not dying. It sounds like I'm getting last rites

[gopostal]

I don't mean to jump off topic but that was a first-rate suggestion you had on fixing that. I look through the logs and it is amazing at how many movers are fixed by that little bit of code. Here's just a part of the log from MH-Assassination:

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Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover0
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover1
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover2
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover3
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover4
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover5
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover6
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover7
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover8
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover63
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover10
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover13
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover14
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover15
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover16
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover17
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover18
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover20
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover21
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover22
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover23
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover24
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover26
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover27
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover25
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover28
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover29
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover32
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover33
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover35
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover37
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover38
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover39
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover41
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover42
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover43
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover49
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover50
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover51
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover52
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover53
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover54
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover55
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover56
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover57
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover58
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover59
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover60
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover45
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover46
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover47
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover48
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: GradualMover0
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover61
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover62
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover64
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover78
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover79
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover80
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover11
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover66
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover67
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover68
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover69
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover70
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover77
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover87
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover88
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover89
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover90
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover102
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover103
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover104
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover105
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover106
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover107
Fixed this mover to not be cheated by grab command: Mover108
...

The logs are full of those. Very nice job!

[*POTS*]

Thank you gopo, I feel appreciated.

[Hermskii]

I will have another thread about why I have not been here or posting the last few days but gopo is right. He and I discussed all of this in depth and I do totally support his effort and pressed him to go in that direction. He'll remain available to me and us forever. To me, this is just like him getting a new phone number is all.

About some patching and stuff to update the MHM server: I'll be happy to inclide many of the upgrades requested. Not all of them but most. Gopo is getting a mod together for me to replace many of the mods I run now. NexGen will not be a part of MHM I can tell you now. Good luck gopo and I'll be calling you again soon.

[Hermskii]

OK, let me get some stuff straight. I'm cinfused just a little.

Is the MHMIII server still up?
Will it be back up if it is not up now?

If it is not up and is not coming back why is that?
Do I need to merge all of the MHMIII forum stuff into the MHM section as I read I was asked to?